65. Psychedelic Stories with Seth Harris

[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to Pursuit of Infinity, a podcast where we explore the depths of human

[00:00:04] consciousness and delve into the fascinating world of psychedelics.

[00:00:09] In this week's episode, we welcome artist, filmmaker, and podcaster Seth Harris.

[00:00:14] Seth brings a wealth of expertise in the realms of the esoteric, occult, and conspiracy topics

[00:00:19] which align with many of our interests here at Pursuit of Infinity.

[00:00:24] Our conversation spans a wide range of subjects, delving into intriguing discussions about Also, you'll find links below to our Discord server and YouTube channel, which is at youtube.com slash at pursuit of infinity. All of our episodes are always posted there in video format, as well as an array of shorts that we have been putting together on a regular basis. Now with all that out of the way, thank you so much for listening and I hope you all this knowledge of esoteric and occult stuff along with psychedelics, which surprised me. So how'd that all start for you? Okay, well first I owe you an apology. We had you on that stuff and weird and despite like three people supposedly having a having to back up stuff and having files, we lost

[00:03:02] your file and never were able to upload it. So we want you back at some point because There's definitely in the whole umbrella of psychedelics, they can absolutely cause problems, but they also have huge benefits to them. It's like any tool ever, you know, like social media is, you know, a great tool if you use it wisely,

[00:04:21] but it can also be just a horrible detriment to your life.

[00:04:24] Same thing with anything is kind of anxiety inducing, depending on what's going around, what's going on in your life. So but yeah, I think they're an amazing tool and can absolutely promote like neuroplasticity and a curious mind

[00:05:43] and getting your internal self all organized and right.

[00:06:45] stop and just equate it to that experience or that's not for them. But I really do think that if you stay in it and try to, okay, all these things I don't

[00:06:51] like about myself, well maybe I should focus on that and fix it and maybe a

[00:06:58] psychedelic experience won't be as terrifying. And for me that's true. You

[00:07:04] got to kind of clean house and get different concentrations of the active compound,

[00:08:20] which I forget the actual name of it,

[00:08:23] but through later on, kind of reports a big euphoric kind of experience.

[00:11:00] But if then when you get into the ceiling, I had white ceilings like they were just painted white. There was no ceiling. It was just darkness.

[00:11:01] It was like a night sky, just nothing was there.

[00:12:06] roof. It was just blackness. But anytime I looked at the floor, it was things were flying around the shadows of something above me were darting all around and I would look up and there was nothing

[00:12:11] there. So that was crazy. I remember I remember in the ends of the ferris wheel were rotating into my head and then out. So yeah, that was Salvia for me. Wild, man. I've never taken Salvia, but I have heard people who've had similar experiences. My brother told me about an experience where he was outside

[00:13:42] and he just was looking at the grass after he smoked it

[00:13:46] and he saw just the grass lot of other things that I would never have delved into before. Like religion, Buddhism, esoteric, occult stuff.

[00:15:00] So I assume that probably did the same thing to you.

[00:15:03] What kind of stuff did it get you into and how did it ignite your curiosity?

[00:16:02] forget to eat, be eaten by a predator. Like there's just so much going on.

[00:16:04] And then you think, I mean, the whole,

[00:16:07] and I think we had this conversation,

[00:16:09] it's like the physical body,

[00:16:11] if you were to kind of think of it as tuning a radio

[00:16:15] that tunes in to a frequency,

[00:16:17] yeah, we have a very limited bandwidth

[00:16:21] on what that frequency is.

[00:16:22] So those kinds of questions are like,

[00:16:25] how much of what I just really what it was was transmutation of suffering into something useful, or, you

[00:17:41] know, those kind of theory, I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but it's like you're on a spherical rock, possibly just floating in a giant black void,

[00:19:02] revolving around a ball of fire,

[00:19:04] and your rock just happens to have enough mass We identify gravity gravitational waves and all of these things. But when you look at space for what it is, like what the hell is all this shit up there? Like we don't even have any conception because it seems like for like where I start with this is like the guy in hypothesis, like that guy in mind idea where there's like a the earth is its own

[00:20:22] organism and it has its own intelligence of reminded me like it go it

[00:21:43] like I start thinking of in terms of nature and because you were like talking how the the earth is is

[00:22:43] temperature triggered it was something else. Don't quote me on that.

[00:22:44] But basically, just the basic idea that trees

[00:22:49] communicate with the mycelium,

[00:22:50] the mycelium communicate with each other.

[00:22:53] They let, whenever there's dead organic matter around,

[00:22:57] they alert all the other mycelium guys,

[00:23:01] they network and then they break it down

[00:23:03] to where it's viable nutrients for them

[00:23:05] and also the byproducts are viable nutrients exposing my feet to like the Earth's bio rhythms versus never doing that. So I work in construction and remodel type stuff. So I've got a voltage meter and I tried it and it does work. If you're wearing a shoe, you get nothing. You block that circuit. But if you are touching it with your finger and then touch the spirit realms and stuff. I feel like we have to merge the knowledge and the wisdom that they have with our technological prowess. And then we have the wisdom as a foundation to drive our science and to drive our intellectual prowess. So it just seems like we're missing an entire half of the picture here.

[00:25:45] Yeah, yeah, I I just it would be cool if

[00:26:44] degrees we go for. And so in the scientific community, there's a lot of people that don't want to comment on something they weren't formally educated in, you know, outside of

[00:26:52] their scope. I think that if we had more general education in stuff or had some kind of mechanism

[00:26:58] that facilitated that more, people would be around us, everything we use, whether it be you know, psychedelics or cheeseburgers, man, they're all tools. Everything we use is a tool. And I feel like the more tools we have at our disposal, the better off we are in every facet of reality. I agree. Yeah. There's so many avenues we could go down. But I don't even look at it. But I like to have some things around just in case I need to ground myself. But the concept of grounding to me is sort of counterproductive to a psychedelic experience to me, like you want to be on ground as you want to go out as far as possible. And if you're trying to ground yourself, it seems to

[00:29:41] me like you're trying too hard to control the experience. And

[00:29:44] you're taking yourself out of my routine, I got to take him out for a hike first to make sure he's chilling by the time we get, we get down to business. Um, and generally what I like to do, man, is just lay down in a comfortable place and close my eyes and just allow the experience to unfold.

[00:31:04] And sometimes that means opening my phones, yeah, you don't want to like text or call people with like incoherent babble. That's another important one. But in terms of my my go to protocol, I like.

[00:32:23] I think one of my and this is kind of the background

[00:32:25] I'm coming from. but in terms of productivity, coffee, nicotine, and about a gram of dried mushrooms and exercise. So usually it would be like nicotine, I don't like inhaling anything. I try to keep it as the administration

[00:33:40] as clean as possible, whether it be a nicotine patch

[00:33:43] or some kind of subling to a company or whatever. But yeah just focus

[00:35:00] on your time and at least for me that has gotten it to where we're just accomplishing And sometimes like, you know, it's a compressible, like when you grind up a mushroom, it's very compressible. So when you feel like you're not getting what you were getting at the beginning of the week, you can kind of press more in that gram capsule in terms of density. But it would kind of like, if I'm being exact,

[00:36:22] it would kind of like fluctuate up and down like that.

[00:36:25] It would probably be about five days earlier, consequence of like wearing out those pathways. Like I know stimulants like you can use cocaine or Adderall or any of the amphetamines and it speeds up your like neuro processing the speed in which all those neurons are firing are much faster but you can build up amyloid plaques really fast that way and if

[00:37:44] you're not if you don't have like a really good sleep regiment you could not that dangerous long-term. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's known that, or at least it's speculated that psilocybin promotes neurogenesis and promotes the, uh, you know, the, the addition of different neural pathways, which allow people to get over traumas and also like with micro dosing, allow people to enhance their creativity, enhance

[00:39:01] their senses and things like that.

[00:39:03] Um, but yeah, man, my, my real interest because I've tried microdosing before.

[00:40:06] um psilocybin crystals from like someone had extracted it in hindsight i'm not so sure it was psilocybin crystals i've heard that it can be done and there's some people that

[00:40:10] are really good at it at isolating them um but there is absolutely no way to know if if what me

[00:40:17] and my friend took one time was that uh in I had to guess it was like a, it was either a two zero or a three zero size pill capsule. So like maybe a 500 milligrams somewhere in there, but like two of those.

[00:41:43] So we're talking like, if it was psilocybin crystals, probably after everything was crazy stuff which affected me heavily. I started internally worrying about everything. I remember we finally put on Dumb and Dumber to calm things down and Lloyd's face broke into a bunch of vibrating cubes as he talked. What he was saying made no sense.

[00:44:02] Like that, you know that feeling like that rise where it's like, oh, it's about to happen.

[00:44:04] Like you're going up a roller coaster

[00:44:06] and you're like, all right, I'm not in control anymore.

[00:44:08] I get like those kind of beginnings of that feeling

[00:44:12] whenever that music plays and I'm stone cold sober

[00:44:16] middle of the day just working and it gets thrown up on my,

[00:44:19] I gotta remove it from my Spotify playlist

[00:44:21] just so that doesn't happen.

[00:44:23] But that song just made the whole night descend into madness. trying to piece my mind back together. And the way I was doing it, I had this horrible internal vision where I was at my doctor's and he was like, he's finally done it. He's broken himself. And that kind of idea was just spinning around in my head. And so I remember trying to piece my mind back together by trying to go through the mental process

[00:45:42] of how humans are made.

[00:45:45] All right, you got a man's like so much more pleasant. So there's always like kind of this peaking breakthrough moment of clarity. And then you just kind of slowly wake up back to like normal cognition.

[00:47:05] But after all that was said and done, he just looked shell shocked.

[00:47:06] I left.

[00:47:07] I drove and I remember speak from experience there.

[00:48:21] You know, I've had my fair share of of messed up trips. Well, growing up like MDMA was around, but I knew enough about my my brain that I knew it would probably like that and then there was just euphoria. So in terms of of intense trip like psychedelics psilocybin and and what do you call it? Salvia divinorum pretty much the things I have the most

[00:51:01] experience with the I will say to music or something. But I was listening to some music and while I just kind of held all this, you know, Salvia chew in my mouth, I was having these intense visions for a video that I wanted to your mom on psychedelics, you know, you've done them with friends and stuff like that. Do you have a good support system? And like, does your family understand? Are they cool with it?

[00:55:03] I mean, of the ones that know I use it is for me to pretty much identical, you know, the people who understand it, they're cool about it, you know, they know that I use it responsibly. And I have introduced it to, you know, some of my friends and family as well, which has been amazing. And I introduced it to my fiancee, actually, I talk about this all the time on the podcast, but me and my fiancee were going through some rough times a few years back. And we did mushrooms together, and it changed everything.

[00:55:05] I mean, it healed our relationship, just in ways that I could never do. I wasn't comfortable with my own skin. I, you know, actually low key probably hated myself. But then like after feeling that divine thing, you know, touching source changed my whole life. It changed everything for me. And feeling that with your significant other or with your friends, like it creates a bond that is unbreakable, man.

[00:56:23] Even to this day, you know, I have one of my best friends.

[00:56:25] Um, we took psychedelics together a lot.

[00:57:24] was very nice with a significant other. But unfortunately, later on, there was like a ton of distractions in the house.

[00:57:28] Yeah, that happens, man. It's tough. It's so unpredictable,

[00:57:31] too. Because when you go into that experience, like when

[00:57:34] people come to me and they ask me, like, you know, what can I

[00:57:36] expect with a psychedelic or like, how should I approach it?

[00:57:39] I just say like, really, I can't tell you. The only thing I can

[00:57:42] say is that you're probably going to have a very profound experience a few years ago on five grams. And it was so bad. And now I haven't taken five grams since I used to. These are these are dry. Dry. Yes. Yes. Dry. Yeah. Yeah. So since then I haven't taken five grams. I just haven't gotten back to that yet. So my current journey is like trying to reignite my courage

[00:59:02] to get back to the place that I And and I I would imagine that's the that would probably be the instigator of the majority of bad trips, but I don't know. Yeah, it feels that way. We're just I mean, disrespecting the substance in general,

[01:00:23] like if you're just not in a good headspace that day or that minute

[01:00:26] or that second, even

[01:01:28] Adderall, Xanax and other and alcohol and mushrooms don't really mix together, at least for me.

[01:01:33] So they're like stacking that kind of stupid stuff. But I know I wish.

[01:01:37] I don't know.

[01:01:38] You know, if I if I did a mushroom trip,

[01:01:42] I would probably try to stack it with the bl. We we got some. I did the whole I mean, I did a bunch of research on it because I didn't want to waste it and it just nothing happened. And it it it has a pungent smell. Right. It has a really particular. OK, I think I had legit stuff, but nothing happened.

[01:03:01] And I've heard everyone.

[01:03:03] If there is one I would I would I, I didn't have that inhibitor. So I did an experiment where I got the vines and they're surprisingly

[01:04:24] easy to get a hold of and they're just vibrating and and uh I guess that's what he called feeling like a uh like he was in dragon ball Z but I don't know fun fact he's a cop now

[01:07:00] yeah man in terms of like whether or not what you're transported to a different environment. All of reality is just switched like the channel on the TV is is switched to something else. Okay, I have a question because I all right. It's really interesting. You mentioned something really specific. So when I tried D's all I don't know what that is. That's the first time I've ever heard anyone mention that. You know, I get that and my teeth as well. Feel a little strange. You know, I get this weird like tingling sensation in my teeth. And a buzzing begins to happen in my ears. It's like a zhoo

[01:08:22] like a moving morphing buzzing. It's so that, you know, the fact that our federal government through the CIA were funding experiments

[01:09:42] relating to DMT and other compounds and frequency machines

[01:10:48] early MK Ultra days where they had cards with objects on them and they tried to, they would kind of give a score on like six sense abilities where you know you'd be like okay there some

[01:10:56] people would have like really high scores knowing what was on the card that they couldn't

[01:11:00] see or what was in a box or this or that other people scored low and they would rate the Oh man, if OK, so. With the thing that blows my OK, so I have like two opinions on all this UFI UFO. So sorry, there's like a crazy storm going on near me, which is fitting for this podcast. Right. I like I like storms are cozy. So I'm getting a bunch of alerts, but the OK, so I'm on two sides of the fence here, so.

[01:12:22] Either this is a giant cyop it's real and and then if it's real I have like these other fragmented ideas like The idea that something from a really far Star system I feel like is the lowest in my opinion. It's possible

[01:13:41] But lowest like okay

[01:13:42] All a civilization would have to do is figure out how to like fold space time or something and then these immense

[01:14:45] while they will they will all of a sudden be kind of hard-coded to only jump that height.

[01:14:52] Multiple experiments have been done on this and what's even more disturbing is that their offspring have the same effect without even being exposed to the jar. They all have been kind of bred to

[01:15:00] jump a certain height. So this leads into like the most mode. So like they could say it in a news broadcast. The news, the people that say it aren't really aware they're saying it, but it's been slipped into their script that they read, and then they are not aware they're saying it. They can't hear it or read it, but they can, when they read it, they're not actively conscious

[01:16:20] that they're saying it,

[01:16:22] which then in turn creates panic in the public.

[01:16:24] They could put it in a newspaper,

[01:16:25] they could put it in a news broadcast,

[01:16:26] they could put it wherever they want sort of a zoo or something for a higher level. Yeah. And in terms of the SOP thing, man, I think about that every single time I see any sort of news on the subject, I always have to ground myself with this whole idea that it is so very possible that the entire thing is a SOP. And I remember way back when project blue beam was first being discovered

[01:17:45] as like a conspiracy theory.

[01:18:44] It doesn't seem plausible that there's some sort of a real threat involved here or.

[01:18:51] Uh, there's a danger because a danger or a threat would almost involve an opponent that, uh, like us being the opponent that is sort of on the level

[01:18:56] where we're able to inflict harm on the alien civilization itself.

[01:19:02] And to me with the technology that's been shown, it doesn't

[01:19:06] seem like we're a more advanced civilization, you've probably evolved out of greed, out of all the bullshit that we put ourselves through day after day after day, that makes up this stupid civilization and this dumb society that we find ourselves in in the West. Yeah, I like, I would agree.

[01:20:22] Okay, so I have two things where you say,

[01:20:25] I would agree.

[01:20:26] The idea that, okay, if I find a spider in my house or anything, I put it on a piece of paper and get it outside. Like I'm extremely empathetic towards any life I come across.

[01:21:42] I try not to step on ants. You know, I'm really careful because they're indifferent to us. And, and, and some of them even like us, but you know, it, but we're like, most of us are wiped out from their lawn mowing or whatever concept like that, that we can't understand that they're doing wipes us out. That, that is a, that's a scary idea. Yeah. It sounds like a Rick and Morty episode or something, but you know, I've

[01:23:00] heard a Elon Musk talk about AI and he said something that, that, uh,

[01:23:04] you reminded me of, and I think it was like, if AI, like, think Yeah, I just like the idea of ants down in their chambers with tablets and they have like scribes trying to predict when the next lawn mowing is like this terrifying cataclysmic event. They're all trying they're like, I know. It's the Kuiper belt, the Kuiper belt. So like, yeah, that's we've got two astronomical things. If like everything is the way we believe it is

[01:25:42] that we should probably think about, it would be

[01:26:41] It seems like that's on a timetable. It's like anything else.

[01:26:44] There's like this kind of wavelength or frequency.

[01:26:48] The sun operates and bursts.

[01:26:50] It heats up, it cools down, it heats up.

[01:26:52] It's just doing all of these things.

[01:26:54] And then asteroid phenomenon, who knows?

[01:27:00] Those are things that we don't have a lot of eyes

[01:27:03] in the sky on and every now and then they detect one. of indigenous cultures as I was saying earlier. But Seth, man, this has been awesome. I'm so happy that you agreed to come on, dude. It's been a great conversation. Absolutely. It has. I'd love to have you on again so we can just continue it, man. But why don't you go ahead and tell people where they can find you all the stuff you do, because you did mention some of your art,

[01:28:22] which is amazing, by the way.

[01:28:23] I really love your art.

[01:28:24] So can you tell people where to find all your stuff?

[01:29:23] pretty much it. I really appreciate you having me on. This is fun. Yeah man, it was awesome. And I gotta come on your show again to make up for the loss of the

[01:29:29] files there. And yeah, we can hit it up. Absolutely. I appreciate it.

[01:29:33] Thanks man.